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A person on the CA has now posted: The gym area includes the indoor pool and falls under the same community title. Obviously, there are serious liability implications if a child was to injure themselves in this part of the complex, however, there is some flexibility in the new rules:
“….If you have a competent child that can swim laps and is training for competition, please liase with Building Management.”They are arguing that they didn’t need to send a notice, agenda and minutes and have it go to vote as the gym/pool area forms part of the community title. Is that correct? I still feel this amendment is unjust – what about kids who want to use the pool for exercise? No such condition is attached to adults using the pool.
This is the specific line relating to children and the indoor pool:
• Children under the age of 16 years are not permitted in the lap pool.
Jimmy-T, could you please let me know where this process is referenced?
- There should have been an agenda with both the pool restrictions and the security listed as motions.
- Then there should have been a meeting at which 75 per cent of votes were in favour.
- Then the minutes should have been distributed within 14 days.
- Meanwhile, the by-laws should have been registered with the Registrar-General and have no effect until they are
They’re saying that’s not how it works.
You’re good value, Sir Humphrey!
The pool has been around for years, and it’s generally not that busy. There’s previously been a combination of adults doing laps, kids doing laps as they’re on school swim teams, and kids learning/practising their swimming.
I have personally not seen kids just splashing around, having fun, as it’s a pretty cold pool!
That’s not what they’re saying. But a little organised disruption might be in order. A large number of you could individually ask for access every five minutes or so.
Sorry, to be clear, I don’t think Security will escort me in with my child as children are now not allowed into the fitness centre/pool. I can’t imagine them turning a blind eye to that. But yes, I’m sure they would allow me in on my own as they’ve committed to that in writing.
Re the proper agenda/minute process mentioned above, where exactly is this referenced?
Really appreciate the time both of you have taken to respond and outline suggested actions. Thank you very much.
I like your response, Sir Humphrey.
Slight problem – they have also concurrently introduced biometric access (replacing fob key access) to the fitness centre/indoor pool – under the same shady process. Due to outrage since these new policies have been released, they’ve now said residents who don’t consent to providing their fingerprints can gain access to the fitness centre/indoor pool by contacting Security and getting them to let you in. I don’t consent to my fingerprints being collected (they don’t even have a biometric collection policy yet) so I doubt Security will let us in. This whole biometrics thing is worthy of another post entirely…
They’ve held general meetings, but I never saw it on any agenda or subsequent minutes, and despite multiple requests, they haven’t provided any minutes that outlines how this new by-law was proposed and carried.
And yes, it’s a ban on all children under the age of 16 from using the lap pool, regardless if they’re supervised or not. They’re saying it’s a Work Health and Safety issue – but haven’t specified what issue that is.
Seems to me someone just doesn’t want kids in the pool…Would appreciate knowing what our next steps should be.
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