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  • in reply to: Whatever happened to compulsory appointment by FT? #73052
    Paradise
    Flatchatter
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      Me thinks Fair Trading doesn’t want the job so the proclamation of 1 Feb 2024 was postponed.

      The introduction is by way of Schedule 3 part 28 of the Strata Legislation Amendment Act 2023 No 45, and causes “(e) the Secretary” to be added to part 8 of section 237 of the Strata Schemes Mangement Act. The Secretary being the Commissioner for Fair Trading.

      The only official tidbit can be found on the NSW government website – https://www.nsw.gov.au/housing-and-construction/strata/serving-on-a-committee/changes-to-strata-scheme-laws-2023#toc-managing-agents

      “The Commissioner for Fair Trading is given standing to seek the appointment of a compulsory managing agent at the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal (not yet commenced).”

       

      in reply to: Get out of jail free card at NCAT? #72778
      Paradise
      Flatchatter
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        I thought I’d update this post after getting clarification (not really) from the NCAT member for another fruitless application. Quote: For the purposes of the Act there can be no refusal of inspection of records if the respondent has not formally refused inspection.

        A solicitor did suggest the way to access the records you want to inspect is to have a summons issued during NCAT proceedings.

        in reply to: Dealing with white collar crime in strata #70636
        Paradise
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          Thanks JT. I don’t think tradies can automatically be included. They quote, get a work order, do the job, and get paid. They don’t get involved in the whole strata decision making process.

          As to use/misappropriation of funds some may be inadvertent due to a lack of understanding. It falls into the world of white collar crime (or whatever it can be called) when large sums over many years have been spent but when the matters identified or even just raised there are concerted attempts to obfuscate and of course deny. A person just doesn’t walk into a police station and admit to a crime they just committed. They’re certainly not going to do so at a strata meeting.

           

          in reply to: chairperson holding duals roles on committee #70506
          Paradise
          Flatchatter

            One person can be secretary, treasurer,and chairperson at the same time and this could happen in strata schemes when no one wants to be in the committee or in very small schemes. Of course if there are 3 or more committee members then it would be better that the roles are split. My experience is that when one person holds multiple roles it’s to control everything.

            If 25% of owners request a general meeting then one must be called. This might be a way around for the significant number of owners not having been notified of the AGM. Of course the same owners will once again not be notified if the reasons for the previous failure is not fixed. I believe 21 days is needed for notice by mail and 14 days for notice by email.

            in reply to: lot owners invited to chat with purchasers lawyer #68627
            Paradise
            Flatchatter

              If a potential purchaser either directly or through a solicitor requested the contact details of all owners from the SM then this could be odd depending on the circumstances.

              If the lot seller confirms that this is a bonafide potential purchaser then this would be ok. Here I’m assuming that only strata roll and hence the contact details on the strata roll are being requested and not other contact details. The strata roll contains the nominated contact details which may not be the regular or personal contact details of an owner.

              But if there is no direct confirmation or otherwise from the seller then this should be treated cautiously. We’re all being advised to not hand over personal information willynilly to protect us from scammers. Also that “purchaser” could really be someone trying to circumvent a restraining to locate an ex who happens to lives in the same scheme.

              The better way would have been for the seller to have the strata roll on hand to make available as required either directly or through their realestate agent.

              Irrespective of the above the SM has erred in accepting the directions of a solicitor representing a non-owner (whether a bonafide potential purchasor or not) to cancel a strata meeting.

               

              in reply to: Should I seek approval for unauthorised work? #68628
              Paradise
              Flatchatter

                I’m always amazed that owners have little to no idea of the rules of strata. (Here I’m not commenting on the particular circumstances of the OP which no one knows and are not necessary to know.)

                While strata legislation isn’t perfect it does set out what needs to be done and is easy to read. In any case it’s the first point of call before reading the by-laws which could be considered as fine-tuning for a particular scheme. By-laws don’t replace or override legislation.

                Probably the biggest issue with legislation is that it doesn’t deal with the power trips of committtees and strata managers. If the OP’s scheme is one of those clicky ones where politics overrides legislation and even commonsense then I can understand a hesitency to seek approval. The reality however is that it will come back to bite someone just maybe not today.

                If you are fortunate to live in a decent and reasonable scheme then you should obtain that by-law. It’s a very easy process costing a few hundred dollars (at most) and a few hours of your time. It will buy you a lot of peace of mind. 🙂

                 

                 

                in reply to: Strata Manager appointment #67405
                Paradise
                Flatchatter

                  My experience is that the committee will never say they have refused to make a document available. At best they will make a ton of excuses (to muddy the waters) and at worst will just stand up in court and declare  they made the document available last month as happened to us.

                  in reply to: Get out of jail free card at NCAT? #67292
                  Paradise
                  Flatchatter
                  Chat-starter

                    Also wanted to thank the forum for its time.

                    in reply to: Get out of jail free card at NCAT? #67291
                    Paradise
                    Flatchatter
                    Chat-starter

                      Surely there must be some mechanism as this is not just strata related but the the whole NCAT system assuming the same rules? I’m not arguing with the forum but it would just mean every single application will fail unless the respondent decides to fess up. I also pointed out that even if the documents had been provided the previous month an issue was it had still taken the best part of 3 years. The answer was that records must be made available and since that requirement had been complied with there was no utility in making orders.

                      As for Fair Trading they can investigate any complaints but can’t do anything about it. For action they said take it to NCAT for a determination and if succesful report back. But it was added that if it was succesful then nothing could be done since it had already been dealt with by NCAT. Is this the secret to the rumour not one breach notice has been issued by Fair Trading?

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