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    Madame_Chaire
    Flatchatter

      Some advice please. 

      A small strata block of 6, we’ve been trying for several years to remedy a dampness problem in one of our ground floor units. The block is over 80 years old, and after several attempts at various options, we have now decided to seek quotes for sub-floor ventilation in the worst affected unit. 

      Now – other ground floor unit is claiming they also have a damp problem. problem being: mould on shoes in cupboards etc. The biggest concern is that this aged owner refuses to open their windows and properly ventilate out of security concerns. Should we be responsible for this behaviour?  

      What course of action would you take? We can’t afford to just splash out an extra $3000 just to keep the old ones from grumbling! We have had several large special levies in recent years and are trying to keep costs to a minimum. 

      Really – I just want to grumble myself! 

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    • #24866
      scotlandx
      Strataguru

        We have had issues with damp in one apartment in our scheme, and learnt a lot from that about damp, the causes of damp, what can be done, and who might be responsible for what (with emphasis on the word “might”).

        I suggest you can split this into two parts:

        – are there issues with the common property that are causing the damp – for example, the foundations, damp proof course, sub-floor ventilation etc.

        – is the owner causing or contributing to a damp issue by their actions, such as not opening windows.

        The Building Code requires that rooms be adequately ventilated, including cross-ventilation.  This is done with windows, doors etc. that open to outside.

        So have there been any issues identified, have you ruled out any issues with the common property?  The best thing to do is get an expert in to look at the property and advise you as to whether in their opinion the mould is a result of inadequate ventilation, or some other reason.  If it is the common property, then the Owners Corporation is responsible.

        In our case it was slightly different because the rooms are below ground and not habitable spaces (ceilings below requisite height).  Therefore a number of the Building Code requirements didn’t apply.

        #24867
        Madame_Chaire
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          Dear Scotlandx – yes, the rooms are really up to code – being above ground and very generous in windows and doors to outside. But these are of little use if they aren’t actually being opened! 

          I agree it’s easiest to get a building inspection done but I fear that even that won’t appease the crackpots unbelievers in our midst! If it is found to be adequate ventilation in the building (and there was no problem reported until this person bought in in 2015) then how do we convince an ageing owner that they really should be opening their windows at all times? We have security bars installed on the ground floor units affected. 

          One option would be to install additional vents to the outside but this is probably going to be unsightly from outside and inside. 

          I guess my real concern is that this owner will become unreasonable and vindictive, already being quite forgetful and shut in. How does one cope with single aged owners with no visible means of social support?

          thanks!  

          #24870
          scotlandx
          Strataguru

            It is the nature of some people to be unreasonable, and that can become more evident in a strata scheme.

            If you get a credible expert’s report that says that there is nothing wrong with the common property that is causing damp in the unit, you then have a basis for telling the owner that the OC has no further obligations  Note that it isn’t just a matter of ventilation, the report would have to conclude that all other elements of the common property are ok.

            Conversely, an expert’s report may conclude that damp in a unit is caused by other factors, such as the resident’s failure to open the windows.  If it does, then you can use that in any discussions with the resident.

            I am not sure why the OC would agree to installing additional external vents if the current ventilation is adequate and there is nothing wrong with the common property (assuming there isn’t)?  Look at it this way – why should the OC do that, just because a person refuses to open their windows?

            Unfortunately some people do not see reason and will continue to make demands.  That is just something you have to deal with, while acting in the interests of the owners corporation as a whole.

            #24876
            Madame_Chaire
            Flatchatter
            Chat-starter

              thank you. this is very helpful and “comforting”. I have written asking for evidence of damage, and for a complaint to be made in writing. so far it is all hearsay. I will also be seeking an expert opinion on the building’s condition on that side of the structure. 

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