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29/09/2019 at 10:52 am #42856
How can we stop this? The Canterbury Bankstown Council rangers advised that unless they can see a person putting food out or feeding them they cannot take any action. Compounding the problem is that NSW law allows cats to “roam”. Strata have a sign up saying no cats, but my guess is that nothing strata can do will deter this individual owner. Without going into it, the committee is slowly getting on top of cleaning up a very dilapidated and dirty common area. We recently got rid of a very large tree which was home to roosting ibis above clothes line area. Now we are onto the next “wildlife” issue.
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29/09/2019 at 12:29 pm #42871
You could contact a cat rescue charity and they will come and capture and neuter the cats (then release them).
You could have a look at a by-law that doesn’t permit owners to behave in a way that attracts cats on to common property.
But I find these posts a little troubling. You got rid of a large tree to get rid of ibis, now you want to get rid of cats.
But, really, what’s the problem? Are the cats really a nuisance or do you just not like cats?
Good luck with the rats when the cats are gone.
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30/09/2019 at 2:47 pm #42887But, really, what’s the problem? Are the cats really a nuisance or do you just not like cats?
Good luck with the rats when the cats are gone.
Yes feral cats are a huge issue in some blocks. Our block, which is all ground level has to take several measures to repel feral cats. This includes using vinegar, citrus and other cat repelling items.
Feral cats are noisy and destructive, damaging lawn and gardens. They seem to continuously and copiously copulate with their cacophonous cries and ceaseless caterwauling. It means having to catnap between their conjugal catch ups. It is chaotic.
Here in Victoria, our council provides traps that can be used to catch the cats. Once caught the council either euthanises them or passes them onto a shelter for rehoming.
I love cats and my now deceased cat was a strictly indoor animal. It made for very good neighbourly relations.
01/10/2019 at 7:43 am #42899Perhaps the cats need to be fed as there are no more Ibis. Once the cats are gone someone will need to feed the rats. Once the rats are gone you will have a splendid batch of cockroaches….
Sometimes you just need to take responsibility yourself if no one else will. Call those organisations today if you won’t or can’t catch the stray cats yourself to bring them yourself. Otherwise and unfortunately you may well have a dozen kittens to deal with also by the next GM. In 2 years you will have 50 feral cats irrespective of said resident feeding them or not.
A radical idea is to get the current ones neutered and then adopted by residents of the building. After all it’s not the cats fault.
02/10/2019 at 10:19 am #42943I agree with those who advise that you start dealing with the cats. I had a business in an inner city area of Melbourne years ago and the strays were multiplying fast when people began to feed them. There were first two then a dozen. I had to catch and transport the cats to the RSPCA. Your council will lend a humane trap to you and you can take the captured cats to the RSPCA where they will desex and find homes for them. (Please make a donation to the RSPCA if you do take cats to them.) You could also put pressure on the NSW government to change the cat roaming laws. Roaming cats do incredible harm to each other and to wildlife.
02/10/2019 at 6:42 pm #42954Thanks you for your responses. It is very difficult to get stray cats collected. The RSPCA and NSW cat society won’t do it. Keep in mind that strays are not tagged, vaccinated etc. I have enquired and I have their negative responses. These type of organisations are about rehoming already owned animals that are already well cared for IMHO.
The Canterbury Bankstown Council have been very helpful. As the real issue here is that cats are permitted to “roam” in NSW and the council animal welfare officer was able to explain that it would not be appropriate to catch and remove as we have no way of knowing if they actually “belong” to someone.
As an aside, if these cats were nuisance unowned stays, the council do make available a trap so they can be captured and taken to the councils animal containment facility conveniently located 38kms away from the council area however the council website currently advises that the trap is unavailable “Please note, there has been an outbreak of Feline Panleukopaenia virus in Sydney. As a result, Council has been forced to suspend the cat trap cage service”.
So the council have taken it on as a health issue and advising that it is the availability of food (garbage) that attracts the cats and ibis. Their advice includes spraying citronella.
I will propose a by-law at the upcoming AGM to ban feeding strays which (if approved) will give some strength to the notes sent around by strata.
19/12/2019 at 10:09 pm #46881An update on this issue – none of the facebook groups can help solve this problem. The various animal and wilderness societies are also not interested in being involved. The Canterbury Bankstown Council maintain they are unable to act because of cat roaming legislation. I have correspondence with all these organisations.
Can anyone comment on the trespass / nuisance aspect of this behaviour by one inconsiderate resident / owner feeding stray cats on common property and thereby attracting stray cats to the common property?
20/12/2019 at 8:42 pm #46907<p style=”text-align: left;”>I don’t see how a resident can be trespassing on common property. How many cats are there now?</p>
The other night I found a stray dog on the Hume Hwy. I picked it up and took it to an animal shelter. Easy.20/12/2019 at 8:43 pm #46909Not sure what trespass there is?
Aside from the bylaw, there are cat deterrents available such as electric fences, sprays and ultrasonic devices.
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20/12/2019 at 8:45 pm #46926Cat deterrents? I think they’re called dogs.
But seriously the problem is the cat feeder. A well-written and precise by-law, with breaches pursued rigorously, and a well-positioned security camera, will eventually do the trick in a more humane way.
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04/01/2020 at 1:57 pm #47284We have the same issue in Harris Park. Neighbour in the block opposite feeds a dozen stray cats (many look sickly, some with broken tail) and several unoccupied old houses in this suburb (awaiting knock-down for more flat blocks to come) provide great breeding grounds for each next generation of the poor things.
Unfortunately he impact of cats is not limited to rats and includes native birds, possums, lizards etc.
Parramatta Council, like others, are too short-sighted to intervene. A Trap/Neuter/Release program would stop the cycle but they’ll only rent you a trap and have each one killed if you deliver it (bit too extreme for me). I checked a bunch of local organisations but none have got money for TNR anymore.
PS: I like cats, I’ve got a RSPCA rescued/neutered one but it will never see the outdoors. It’s irresponsible to let them roam and hopefully will be illegal nationwide soon (I think some local governments around the country have already done so?).
It’s just a sad situation.
05/01/2020 at 10:52 am #47321Hi, A query re getting rid of a tree due to problem type birds, were other birdlife prevented from visiting this tree? Or perhaps the tree was damaged in an irretrievable way? Was the local council asked for an opinion? Some councils have special people specialising in environmental concerns.
22/04/2021 at 1:15 pm #55495Every time I see cat-food on the pavement, I always see cockroaches, ants, flies, midges, slugs, centipedes, rats, mice, snails, ibis and ravens eating the cat-food. Very rarely do I see cats eating cat-food on the pavement. Further, cats who receive free food never bother to hunt rats or mice. Only starving cats hunt.
The term “cat-feeders” is false, misleading and deceptive. I call these people RAT-feeders.
RAT-feeders (who believe they are feeding cats but in fact, creating a pest nuisance) are organized into a charitable society/ association. They receive significant taxation benefits, generous public donations and probably huge Government grants.
Creation of a PEST problem and spreading of dangerous diseases that pose a danger to public health. Therefore, their activities are a misuse of charitable funds. Their activities are not a charitable purpose.
We should altogether complain to the NSW Premier and ACNC (Australia’s Charity Commissioner).
Once Government funding is cut off, the charitable society/ association is deregistered, and its mischievous trustees are blacklisted (so they cannot set up another charitable society/ association). I believe this menace can be considerably reduced.
The question is: WHAT is the name of the charitable society/ association whose members are abusing their privileges by harassing us, the general public ?
27/04/2021 at 11:43 am #55586RAT-feeders (who believe they are feeding cats but in fact, creating a pest nuisance) are organized into a charitable society/ association. They receive significant taxation benefits, generous public donations and probably huge Government grants.
We got our kittens from a charity that rescues street cats, desexes them, returns them to the “wild” (because they can’t be domesticated) then finds homes for their kittens.
The cat charities that I know of survive mostly on charitable donations and other fun-raising efforts. I don’t know of any “huge government grants”.
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28/04/2021 at 11:17 pm #55627Convince your strata committee to create a strata garden plan that repel stray cats / pests. It value-adds to units that can then be advertised as a premium clean pest-free environment.
1. many varieties of beautiful red hot chillis + cayenne are superb for repelling stray cats. Absolutely no catnip because cats love it.
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/pepper/growing-chili-pepper-plants.htm
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/pepper/growing-cayenne-peppers.htm
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/pepper/chili-pepper-companion-plants.htm
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/pepper/chili-peppers-not-hot.htmhttps://davidsuzuki.org/queen-of-green/keep-cats-garden/
2. other beautiful plants repel cats. eg, The lawn can be replaced with lemongrass and citronella grass. With rosemary all around the perimeter.
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/plant-problems/pests/animals/cat-repellent.htm
3. beautiful plants to repel insects.
https://www.abc.net.au/gardening/factsheets/pest-management-plants/9427576
https://www.treehugger.com/plants-that-repel-unwanted-insects-4864336Local Councils are full of politics that can be harnessed for proper results. Facts:
1. The Mayor runs the Council: he hires and fires staff and orders them what to do or not do.
2. The Mayor is one of many Councillor and elected by the other Councillors as their leader.
3. If the Mayor refuses to direct the Council police (called Rangers) to fine rat-feeders (for aggravated littering under sections 45 and 45A Protection of the Environment (Operations) Act (NSW)), then contact ALL other Councillors to inform them of the Mayor’s mismanagement.
4. Provide photographs of the cat-food + written records of the location, time and date (yeah tedious but necessary). You need evidence to convince the other Councillors.
5. If anyone fell sick due to pests, persuade him/her to send their medical certificate to all the Councillors.
Above all, do share your success stories on this web-site to encourage others to take firm, determined, and relentless organized actions against the pest plagues that endanger our health. May we all succeed together.
One person replied that he knew of no Government grant. A rat-feeder personally assured me that his charity was very well funded with large Government grants, tax breaks and public donations – all illegal.
29/04/2021 at 12:06 am #55632One person replied that he knew of no Government grant. A rat-feeder personally assured me that his charity was very well funded with large Government grants, tax breaks and public donations – all illegal.
I am that person. So what’s illegal? They get tax breaks because they are a charity clearly doing charitable works unlike, say, a private school, which is a business designed to turn out entitled pricks who come out thinking they should run the country (because they probably will). Or a religion?
Regarding the grants, if you take the Cat Protection Society of NSW, I was only aware of the state grant of $15,500 and I didn’t know about the $257,000 Commonwealth grant. Big deal – a drop in their ocean.
But if you want some facts (because that’s what we deal with here), have a look at their annual report for 2019-2020. They’ve been doing pretty tough through Covid, while their cats have been offering comfort and companionship to a lot of isolated people.
And if you are really complaining about cats being on the street, why are you accusing a charity that gets them off the street of acting illegally?
Admit it, you just don’t like cats.
Enjoy your chillies.
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