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    Frans
    Flatchatter

      Townhouse x 4. 3 owner occupied 1 tenanted. (3yr. old building, Builder de-registered – ASIC cert. obtained).  SM dismissed due to defamatory lies recorded in Minutes & overall ineptitude.

      New SM employed 6th February 2014.  Extraordinary meeting held, Secretary, as elected at AGM Jan 2014). Minutes received.

      Levy was due & payable 1st April; finally received Invoice for Sinking Levy Fund 28th April with reference number details to enable payment, however, NO Admin Levy invoice received to date.

      Do we deduct sinking levy from total previously paid and pay the remainder as the Admin Levy (1st Jan 2014)?  None of us has paid the Admin Levy and wonder where we stand legally. 

      Regarding the elected Secretary: Is elated to hold such a position but not elated about  her duties.  When asked to reconsider her position as Sec. she refused, (verbally). This tiny Strata should run smoothly however, the absolute inertia of the two other owners, (can’t speak for owner who has tenant), has us do any work on their behalf, including correspondence, permission to etc., common areas, gardens etc.

      They  ‘just want to love peacefully’ i.e 3 monkey syndrome.

      Really need advice. 

      Many thanks

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    • #21554
      Whale
      Flatchatter

        It’s usual for a single Invoice to be received showing separate line items for each of the Administration and Sinking Funds, and a total amount payable as the combined Levy.

        Have you or any of the other Owners checked the Schedule of Unit Entitlements that would have been included as an Addendum to the Agenda of your last AGM?

        That would clearly show the applicable components of each Owner’s combined Levy payments and reveal any accounting errors by your newly appointed Strata Manager, which surely they’d have corrected by now if any Owner/s had queried their original Invoice/s and those were in error (?).

        It’s by no means unusual or even unreasonable for some Owners to adopt what you describe as the “monkey syndrome” and expect their Executive Committee (E/C) to either attend to the day-to-day running of the Plan or to delegate that to its Strata Manager, and if a Member of that E/C doesn’t or won’t work well with the others then they won’t be re-elected; will they?

        #21684
        Frans
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          Than you for your post.

          We do have the aggregate units sorted, but, despite emailing, phoning and hand-delivering information to current SM, she is unable to sort out Admin fund levy!  Sinking fund levy sent separately, 4/52 late.  So, I simply looked at 1st Jan ’14 notice and deducted one from the other and posted the cheque for Admin fund to SM…still not banked!

          To date 04/06/2014, new SM cannot obtain figures from previous SM. In fact, previous SM will NOT hand over ANY correspondence incl. financial details etc. Will not post, email information nor will she speak to or return current SM’s calls. As well, current SM has practically no correspondence whatsoever.  Whilst I have more paper-work than I can jump over.

          The next levy is due 1st JULY!

          EGM called for next week to ‘sort ‘out problems….can only hope.

          As for re-electing the Sec.  Unfortunately being only 4 person strata…the other 2 second the motion….despite her absolute apathy. Both my husband and myself were elected Sec with previous SM, but resigned due to dysfunctional nature of work practices.  Don’t think that the other 2 would vote for either of us again. However, having said that, could make life difficult for Sec at EGM and hope that she is not re elected………nasty but…….maybe it’s our only alternative??.

          ****Shame about our financial position..can’t afford to move******

          Another saga……now take antidepressants to cope. Husband removes hearing aids and pretends all’s well –  enables him to cope.

          p.s am corresponding with Commissioner OFT at present, if that doesn’t work perhaps ACA Channel 9???

          F. 

          #21697
          Frans
          Flatchatter
          Chat-starter

            Further to my post:

            New SM called EGM for next week…..The Secretary and the 2 other owners sent proxies!

            We wish to attend because the Meeting is to discuss what has happened to our Bank account Levy contributions, etc from erstwhile SM.

            And to decide what to pay for Sinking and Admin funds etc.!

            SM ‘happy’ for this odd couple, (us), to attend but, our Secretary ‘couldn’t be bothered’ and cast a proxy vote whilst enticing neighbour to do the same.  The 4th lot owner lives in WA and SM has received their proxy.

            Have just emailed Secretary to see if she is willing to be proactive about Financials and actually attend the EGM.

            Wish me luck

            F.

            #21717
            Frans
            Flatchatter
            Chat-starter

              HELP!      JT or Whale.. 

              EGM held yesterday, Thurs 12th…..3 proxy votes.  We attended.

              1..Motion raised to ‘sort’ levies! 

              2..Advised Sec resigned, and letters sent to all, (4).

              Arrived home after EGM to again receive separate levy notice for Sinking fund, due 1st July, but no notice for Admin Levy…Just don’t know what to do.

              As well, our cheque for Admin fund sent to SM,(due 1st April), told banked 10 days ago but upon checking, has not been debited from a/c to date 13/06/14. 

              I don’t think that I would be the most popular strata member if I was to advise the SM of above. Due to inertia of 3, I’m the one who has corresponded by mail, email, text and in person regarding our very small strata and its small matters, therefore seen as ‘pain in the neck’ 

              What to do? 

              Many thanks in anticipation

              F.

              p.s Re: Secretary who doesn’t care…….have started another topic

              #21718
              Jimmy-T
              Keymaster

                You are entitled by law to examine the records of the Owners Corporation.  I think there is a fee of $30 for this and it has to be organised in advance.  You should be able to see the bank account and who has paid what and when.

                Once you examine the records, it should be clear what is required.

                Failure to provide this information is legitimate grounds for taking the strata manager to Fair Trading and NCAT, if need be, to ask for the strata manager to be removed and the statutory appointment of another manager (of your prior choosing).

                Or you could just sack them and go it alone.  Have a look at the ad on this page for self-managed strata software.  For a block of four units, it’s really all you need.

                The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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