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  • #64254
    WoodWalker
    Flatchatter

      Over the last 5 or so years we have found 5 or 6 instances where the strata manager has paid for work that either:

      was not done
      was done to a lot owners private garden (3 times)
      was not authorised or requested

      We are using the My-community portal from Urbanise but the strata manager is resisting turning on the Invoice Approval option in the portal>

      Does anyone use this?

      Can you set it up so that only invoices more than $50 need to be approved and standard invoices (e,g, sm fees, electricity, water) don’t need to be approved, that 2 out of a 4 possible people can approve?

      Questioning the invoice before it is paid is ALOT easier than questioning it a year later at the AGM.
      Thanks for any assistance,

      Woodwalker

       

       

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    • #64259
      Jimmy-T
      Keymaster

        Tell the strata manager that failure to turn on the invoice approval option will be seen as a breach of contract, which may lead to termination followed by a forensic examination of all previous payments.  That should do the trick.  The strata manager should do what the owners want, not the other way round.

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
        #64281
        WoodWalker
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          Thanks Jimmy-T.
          Does anyone who uses my-community from Urbanise know if it can be set up so that only invoices more than $50 need to be approved and standard invoices (e,g, sm fees, electricity, water) don’t need to be approved, and that 2 out of a 4 possible people can approve?

          #64298
          David Ng
          Flatchatter

            so that only invoices more than $50 need to be approved

            If you’re concerned re the integrity of your SM don’t let them pay any invoice without Committee approval. Otherwise you may well find that every invoice is for one dollar below your limit, i.e. $49 dollars.

            #64324
            sm_sydney
            Flatchatter

              Urbanise

              I am a strata manager & use Urbanise everyday. It can be set to allow authorisations on expense levels and number of committee member approvals. It doesn’t automatically allow approval of certain invoices (i.e. power, water etc)   I would recommend you as a committee member approve all invoices. It is a very simple one click process to approve invoices.

              #64478
              WoodWalker
              Flatchatter
              Chat-starter

                Thanks sm-sydney

                We are pretty unhappy with out sm … and they certainly do not provide information allowing us to see and understand OUR financials e.g.

                In the urbanise GENERAL LEDGER I can see that certain invoices are paid on a given date and if I then look at the BALANCE SHEET around that date I can work out whether the payment was taken out of the GENERAL FUND or the SINKING FUND.

                Wouldn’t it be better if there was a column in the GENERAL LEDGER showing what fund the money was taken out of?

                Also I suspect that some invoices have been paid out of the GENERAL FUND (‘cos we were up to the line item in the SINKING FUND forecast) and then in preparation for the AGM they have been magically recategorized to come out of the SINKING FUND. Auuuugggh! This is not transparent financial management.

                Very frustrating!

                I better go for a walk now.

                #64488
                newb
                Flatchatter

                  @WoodWalker

                  I feel ya.

                  Our SM moved to Urbanise but never even mentioned the portal to us. The last thing they want is people being able to see the actual accounts. I asked them about it and …. crickets

                  Will be rid of them soon.

                  #64504
                  Coniver2
                  Flatchatter

                    WoodWalker I hear you also

                    Our SM has also switched to Urbanise

                    During the last financial year the following has happened and unfortunately  Owners will never know

                    Late Payment fees  twice for electricity & gas , the strata manager even tried to avoid paying the $12 fee on one invoice by paying only the usage sum

                    Sydney Water Rate unpaid to 6 months and then  duplicated payment

                    Sundry Expenses for over  $6K used for invoices related to other expense eg Fire Protection that  affects our Budget

                    Admin invoices of over $20K applied to the Sinking fund  without committees approval

                    I have noticed our strata manager is also cherry picking the recording of documents

                    Hope to be rid of them soon also

                     

                     

                     

                    #64536
                    WoodWalker
                    Flatchatter
                    Chat-starter

                      We are staggered by the level of performance of our SM. e.g. not informing the EC of a bad debtor (we only became aware of this at the AGM 1.5 years after it started).  And now they are going for a 34% increase in their management fee.  Tomorrow I will try the line that we pay the SM to collect OUR income and there is a 10% reduction in OUR income so perhaps they should take a 10% reduction in THEIR fee until they get the arears.

                      In Canberra Strata Managers DO NOT need to have any training or qualification.  The company needs to be registered.

                      Auuuugh!

                      #64973
                      StrataChair
                      Flatchatter
                      (from NSW)

                        Hi all,

                        I use Urbanise to run our self-managed building, so know the back-end pretty well.

                        It has a payments “Approval setup” screen with comprehensive options including:

                        • Set a $$ threshold for approval

                        • Set the number of committee members needed to approve

                        • ‘Whitelist’ suppliers with individual $ thresholds (so, for example, regular bills like power and cleaning don’t need committee approval).

                        So I recommend compiling the budgeted items you’re happy to have paid without approval; set reasonable limits on others and requirements for committee pre-approval on any categories you want to eyeball first. Approve plan as a committee and send it to the SM.

                        #64990
                        Jimmy-T
                        Keymaster

                          For those of you who are thinking of self-management but haven’t settled on  software, have a look at StrataBox

                          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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