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  • #70932
    The Hood
    Flatchatter

      There are violence orders in place between an owner (the protected person) and a SC member (the restrained person); who can attend an in person, in a room, SC meeting or can both still show up even though there is a separation requirement in the AVO?

      Anyone come across this situation before?

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    • #70943
      Jimmy-T
      Keymaster

        As there is no absolute need for both parties to attend the meeting in person, facilities might be offered to allow the protected person to attend the meeting via Zoom.  Since they have no absolute right to speak at the meeting, and meeting attendance via Zoom is allowed by law, their basic rights are not being impinged upon.

        Regarding the second question, I am amazed to say that no, I have never come across this before.

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        #70944
        kaindub
        Flatchatter

          An oversight by the legal representatives of both parties.

          From first hand experience – one or both legal representatives would have recognised this awkward situation, and the orders of the court would have specified what happens in this circumstance.

          Just because there is animosity between two parties, basic rights such as attending legally mandated meetings, are generally not thrown away by the court.

          However, in this case, unless the court order says  otherwise, the prohibited person MUST obey the order which means staying away from the protected person. They could attend by Zoom, but there could be orders in place to not speak to the protected person.There is no allowance and a violation of the court order is a criminal offence ( ie it’s very serious).

          If I was the restrained person, I would stay away from meetings where the protected person is in attendance, whether in person or remotely, to be sure there are no grounds for a breach of the order.

          OR

          have their lawyer ask the court for a revised order to take this circumstance into account.

          #70946
          Jimmy-T
          Keymaster

            Seriously, people ignore APOs and APVOs  on a daily basis, often resulting in tragic consequences. There are no StrataKops. No one is going to jail.

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            #71156
            reddant
            Flatchatter

              A lot of manipulation goes on with  AVOs, with people pretending to misunderstand what is written in black and white.

              On the other hand, the courts have been known to issue dysfunctional orders written by malicious applicants.

              The defendant should apply to the court to vary the order. They should ask that it be specified that electronic rooms do not apply to the order if the order actually says that the defendant is excluded from being in certain physical proximity of the protected person.

              You do not need to waste money on a legal representative to make an application to vary.

               

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