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    Flatchatter

      Hi everyone,

      I’m new to the forum and thought maybe someone could offer me some advice. I’m living in Sydney and renting over here for the first time. I’m originally from the UK and my partner is Aussie.

      Whenever we apply for a property it gets rejected and the agent never tells us why. He’s a plumber and has been in work full time for 2+ years and I’m a TV Associate Producer. We earn more than 3 times the rent between us so we’re more than capable of paying up. We’ve put in 4 applications over 6 weeks and have been denied every one. Is this normal?

      Thanks! Smile

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    • #13502
      Jimmy-T
      Keymaster

        We get a lot of pleas like this and it seems that you have to treat efforts to find a home as if they were job applications. 

        Put together a portfolio with little biographies of who you are and what you do (with pictures, if you can) and attach testimonials from employers, colleagues and previous landlords and agents (if you can get them). 

        Make it look as professional as you can, and generic so that you can print it out whenever you need to and attach it to the next application.

        Also turn up for the inspections looking like you mean business – again, think job interview – not like you've just rolled out of bed on your way to brunch.

        Don't forget that British backpackers have a terrible reputation in the rental industry, mainly for turning flats into de facto hostels, so you have to overcome that largely unfair stain on all young Brits' characters.

        It's a very crowded market out there so you are competing with people who may look better than you on the basic forms (and you don't know what exaggerated claims they are making).

        So you have to stand out.  Attach your “pitch” document so, at the very least, the agents and landlords notice you.

        Other tactics are to offer a bit more on top of the asking price or several months rent in advance.  Be careful with the latter, though, as there are no clear-cut  mechanisms for getting it back if it all goes pear-shaped.

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
        #13503
        struggler
        Flatchatter

          Totally agree with Jimmy.  It is a tight rental market out there.  I am not currently renting but have friends who do (and those who have rental properties) and alot of people offer more than the going rate to get a rental property.

          I did rent in the early 80's when the rental market was very tight  and 40 people would show up to apply for every property for rent.  I can say that myself and my partner  dressed as if we were meeting the queen, had all the details and had no problem getting a property (infact, were successful at two at once and got to pick from them).

          It really is like a job application!

          #13612
          Drew
          Flatchatter

            struggler said:

            Totally agree with Jimmy.  It is a tight rental market out there.  I am not currently renting but have friends who do (and those who have rental properties) and alot of people offer more than the going rate to get a rental property.

            I did rent in the early 80's when the rental market was very tight  and 40 people would show up to apply for every property for rent.  I can say that myself and my partner  dressed as if we were meeting the queen, had all the details and had no problem getting a property (infact, were successful at two at once and got to pick from them).

            It really is like a job application!

            I disagree.

            I currently rent my place of residence (long story) and have good tenants in my other place.

            For the tenants I have they were a young couple in their mid 20s, one self employed, one in a professional job. I never saw them, but they hadn’t trashed their last place, got their full deposit back. Their application was a simple fill out the form, copy of payslips (which made me a bit jealous of what the guy was earning) and 1 week rent as a holding deposit. No bio or anything like that. They had good references and got in first so it was theirs.

            For me I did it the same way. Fill out the application form and then submit it with a one week deposit.

            I would laugh if I ever received a bio with a rental application.

            #13613
            Jimmy-T
            Keymaster

              You might laugh, Drew, but would you reject an application solely because the applicants had made an extra effort?

              I'd still say,  if it's not likely to do the applicant any harm and it might do them considerable good, why not do it.

              The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
              #13618
              Drew
              Flatchatter

                JimmyT said:

                You might laugh, Drew, but would you reject an application solely because the applicants had made an extra effort?

                I’d still say,  if it’s not likely to do the applicant any harm and it might do them considerable good, why not do it.

                No – but I wouldn't give them favour over a person that had filled out the required info, provided all required documents and handed over a 1 week holding deposit.

                 

                First in first served.

                 

                I own and rent. I move around a bit in my rentals. Even in this supposed tight market I have never paid extra and I have never provided a bio. I just fill out the form and make sure I am there first. First to the estate agents is the most important thing.

                #13621
                Jimmy-T
                Keymaster

                  Fair enough … but there are renters out there for whom that doesn't work and landlords for whom a little bit of extra effort does make a difference.  If what you do works for you, that's great.  Maybe you just present exceptionally well without making the extra effort.

                  But that's no reason to slam something that works for other people.  It's a tactic that works for tenants and landlords (and, yes, I too have been on both sides of that fence).

                  Like I said, if it doesn't do your chances any harm and it might do them some good, why not make a little bit of extra effort?  Just making an effort  – rather than feeling 'entitled' – sets you apart from the crowd these days.

                  The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                  #13731
                  Jimmy-T
                  Keymaster

                    Here's a long-running saga story with a happy ending.  Furryball contacted us last week with this message.

                    Thanks JimmyT. We have actually found a place now! When we went to our viewing we had a good long chat with the current renters and asked for some hints and tips for our covering letter, something the owners would want to hear. They suggested a whole load of stuff specific to their property and it worked! I got along really well with the agent as well who I had a few chats with prior to the viewing – so we're all good now. Feel free to update on your site  …

                    I'm not saying “told you so” to everyone who poo-pooed the idea of making an extra effort … well, OK, I am. It's an isolated case, I know, but it worked for Furryball. People like people who try just a little bit harder, whether it's looking for work  or somewhere to live.

                    However, I have to hastily admit that talking to the existing tenants wasn't my idea … but it's a good one.

                    The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                    #13738
                    Drew
                    Flatchatter

                      And I'm safe and secure in the knowledge that I have never had to do anything as ludicrous and pointless as that, and never demanded anything as demeaning as that from one of my tenants.

                      #13742
                      Jimmy-T
                      Keymaster

                        Come on, Drew.  Maybe you’ve just been lucky in both your landlords and tenants. It's just not that easy out there  … course, the rest of us don't have your inimitable charm.

                        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                        #13754
                        Drew
                        Flatchatter

                          I was actually going to say that if you are having problems it is not a bad idea. But I don’t want to see the end result being that every prospective tenant has to do it and it becomes an industry norm. I reckon that would have pretty negative consequences, and simply reinforces the separation in worth between tenants and owners.

                           

                          But I find just fluttering my eyelashes works. But then I always get charm and smarm mixed up.

                          #13759
                          Jimmy-T
                          Keymaster

                            These things move in cycles, Drew. In a few years there could be a glut of rental properties and then it'll be the landlords doing the eyelash fluttering

                            The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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