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    Papou
    Flatchatter

      I have a couple of vexed questions I can’t find the answer to in the forums:

      (1) What happens if only one of the lot owners turn up to an AGM? What if none show up? Does this allow the current strata manager to take over the Owners Corporation?

      (2) If only one lot owner is interested in being on the Strata Committee, what happens to the status of the SC?  

      (3) Does the role of SC chairperson automatically roll over if there is no new committee elected at an AGM for the following year?

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    • #29664
      Sir Humphrey
      Strataguru

        When a few of our owners were being so unpleasant to EC members that there was a risk that nobody would want stand to be elected to our executive committee, I asked our managing agent what would happen. She said that in the absence of an elected EC, the entire OC becomes the EC. She said she would continue to manage the property and that every time she needed a decision from the EC on some matter, she would be obliged to call a general meeting to make the decision. She would charge a fee for each of these extra meetings. She predicted that owners would soon get sick of that and some would put their hands up to be elected to a committee.

        #29667
        Stratabox
        Flatchatter

          Furthermore, in the absence of an SC, I guess no decisions would be made, existing agreements would be rolled over without scrutiny which would invariably lead to poor outcomes and the building slowly falling into disrepair. Why would anyone let their assets rot is completely beyond me!

          #29797
          Papou
          Flatchatter
          Chat-starter

            Thanks guys. 

             

            I’m still wondering what the answer to my third question is, however: what happens to the post of SC chairperson if there is no new committee elected at an AGM for the following year?

             

            Does it automatically roll over and continue as is?

            #29798
            Jimmy-T
            Keymaster

              @Papou said:
              What happens to the post of SC chairperson if there is no new committee elected at an AGM for the following year? Does it automatically roll over and continue as is?  

              The basic principle in NSW is that all the seats on the committee are vacated at the AGM and a new election is held.  That committee then elects its office-bearers. There is no “rolling over” even if in most strata schemes most of the time, the same people get elected year after year.

              If there is no election, there is no committee.  If there is no committee, then there are no “chairs”.  People may assume these roles but would only be because no one has challenged them.

              The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
              #29799
              Jimmy-T
              Keymaster

                @Papou said:
                I have a couple of vexed questions I can’t find the answer to in the forums:

                Sorry, I missed these questions the first time around

                (1) What happens if only one of the lot owners turn up to an AGM?

                You wait 30 minutes and then declare those present as a quorum.

                What if none show up? Does this allow the current strata manager to take over the Owners Corporation?

                Until such times as the owners get themselves together and hold an election, yes. Once there is a committee, they can decide what the Strata Manager does and doesn’t do.

                (2) If only one lot owner is interested in being on the Strata Committee, what happens to the status of the SC? 

                It has a committee of one.  There is no minimum number on the committee in NSW.

                (3) Does the role of SC chairperson automatically roll over if there is no new committee elected at an AGM for the following year?  

                Answered above.

                The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                #29800
                Stevecro
                Flatchatter

                  It has a committee of one.  There is no minimum number on the committee in NSW.

                  The number of members allowed on the SC is between 1 – 9. So in response to Jimmy’s answer, the minimum number is 1, you cannot have zero members on the SC.

                  If you don’t elect a SC, then you have no office bearers, not a great position to be in. Without office bearers you have no chairperson and no Secretary, which means you cannot call meetings.

                  Usually most Strata Managers will take on the role of the office bearers due to their Management Agreement allowing them to do so. When you engage a Strata Manager to manage a scheme, you delegate certain responsibilities and functions to them. There is every chance you would have delegated the functions of the SC and office bearers to your Strata Manager, check your Management Agreement ASAP. 

                  Sir Humphrey, if there is no SC, the OC does not become the SC. One cannot become the other, they are two different groups. However the principle you explained is correct, if there is no SC, all decisions outside the Strata Managers scope of authority (regardless how small they may be) will have to go to a general meeting for a decision to be made. 

                  The above scenario greatly increases your management fees as general meetings require a lot more work to organise than SC meetings. 

                  #29803
                  Jimmy-T
                  Keymaster

                    @Stevecro said:
                    The number of members allowed on the SC is between 1 – 9. So in response to Jimmy’s answer, the minimum number is 1, you cannot have zero members on the SC.

                    Well, exactly. I think you’re being a bit pedantic in correcting what I said.  A committee with zero members on it doesn’t exist so there has to be a minimum of one.

                    My point was, there is no minimum in NSW, unlike some states that say there must be two or three, depending on the size of the strata scheme.

                    Sir Humphrey, if there is no SC, the OC does not become the SC. One cannot become the other, they are two different groups. 

                    Not so. In fact Section 29 (4) says this:  “If there is no strata committee of an owners corporation, the strata scheme must be administered by the owners corporation, but nothing in this subsection prevents a strata managing agent appointed under this Act from exercising any functions conferred on the agent.”

                    Also, they are not completely separate and distinct bodies. The Strata Committee can act as the owners corporation, provided those powers have been delegated, and many SCs do in matters that don’t require a special resolution. 

                    Also the OC can rescind any decisions made by the strata committee and the chair of the committee is automatically the chair of the OC.  They may be different but they are closely intertwined.

                    There are plenty of small strata schemes where the committee comprises all of the owners so the OC and SC are one and the same thing.

                    FYI, Section 29 (1) says: “An owners corporation must appoint a strata committee of the owners corporation in accordance with this Act.”

                    The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                    #29823
                    Papou
                    Flatchatter
                    Chat-starter

                      Thank you for your detailed clarification of these questions!  I really hope our OC pulls its collective finger out and some owners actually turn up to our next AGM …

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