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    Just a quick question.

    I investigated into doing a DYI plan to save on cost for the Strata Plan, but I have decided against it.

    I’ve called a couple of quality surveyors in country NSW who advise that they no longer do these 10 Year Capital Works Plans.

    What are your thoughts on independent property valuers?

    Who else can do these plans?

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  • #27595
    BONNIE L
    Flatchatter

      Think the question needs to be clearer. A ‘strata plan’ I haven’t heard of, unless the building plan is what is meant.  I may be wrong.  Also, why are ‘quality’, or is it quantity surveyors, wanted.  Is it a valuation for the strata property what is meant ?  

      I understand, may be wrong, that the guidelines for a 10 year capital works plan guideline can be found in the strata community generally, at no or at minimal cost.

      #27607

      I think my question is quite clear!

      Im quering about the Capital Works (Sinking) Plan for the common property in a strata building.

      Research via the internet is fruitless for guidelines/samples to use as a guide for a first timer.

      Regional NSW quantity surveyors in my area are NOT prepared to professionally complete a CWP on our behalf. They’ve shown no interest in providing this particular service at all. Limited by the small number of surveyors in our country area.

      To go to another town to get a surveyor to professionally prepared this CWP report will cost more due to the extra travelling involved.

      Which is why Im coming up against some resistance from the other owners to go further afield.

      So….who else can do these Capital Works Plans?

      #27609
      Jimmy-T
      Keymaster

        Get in touch with the Owners Corporation Network which is basically an organisation for the committee members of strata schemes.  There may be someone there who can provide a template into which you can plug your buildings requirements.

        I believe Stratabox and (other strata management software programs) have a maintenance plan module in their software too.

        But if anyone has a spreadsheet they don’t mind sharing, please post it here.

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
        #27610
        Lady Penelope
        Strataguru

          It is not mandatory to use a Quantity surveyor although that is obviously the best thing to do.

          [s80(6)] SSMA 2015 states:

          (6) An owners corporation may engage expert assistance in the preparation of a plan under this section.

          Note the word “may”.

          My scheme uses Solutions in Engineering https://www.solutionsinengineering.com/

          This company appears to have Australia wide coverage so you may find that they will visit your site.

          https://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ssma2015242/s80.html

          #27625
          Banned
          Blocked

            I have seen many of these reports undertaken by various companies including the one mentioned and found them to be inaccurate and somewhat bizarre in some cases. Many items missed and some items repeated randomly. Additionally they do not cover unforeseen expenses e.g. major building defects that are unknown at the time of inspection. Mostly I find they are a rough estimate at best to satisfy the legislation.  I even had one done on a Sunday by a Strata manager desperate to avoid further action for a total failure to properly do  their job.

            #27634
            g-g
            Flatchatter

              Try this:

              https://shop.opr.com.au/strata-resources-and-links/

              Choose 10 year sinking fund forecast.

              You will need to correct some formulas, but otherwise works well and is modifiable to your own needs.

              #27639
              Jimmy-T
              Keymaster

                I just had a look and I have to say I am very impressed.  It’s free, for a start, and they have a link back to the Flat Chat website.

                Who could ask for anything more?

                The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                #27648
                david2708
                Flatchatter

                  Our building had a 10 yer plan professionally done by a quantity surveyor(or whatever it is called) and it was a complete joke. It bore no relation to reality in any sense. The biggest cost stated was extertior painting of the building. The building is raw red brick! Where’s the paint going? It lists jobs as costing a couple of hundred dollars, yet I have had 4 jobs done  this year with a minimum cost of $5000. One had an estimate of $25,000

                  Next AGM, I will do a revised one based on what I know needs doing over the foreseeable future.

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