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04/10/2012 at 3:32 pm #8446
What exactly would the definition of the Executive Committee of a strata plan in NSW be? Am I right in saying that they are the representatives of the Owners Corporation? Therefore, if the OC is responsible for common property maintenance, then it falls on the EC, as the representatives of the OC, to organise and carry out maintenance on their behalf? Just need correct wording for correspondence and when I google definition of Executive Committee can’t find a definitive answer.
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04/10/2012 at 4:50 pm #16703
Isn’t the role of an Executive Committee the same as that of a Board of Directors?
I believe it is, so in that regard one cumbersome but nonetheless accurate definition by someone as anal as me could be….
An Executive Committee is a body whose members are nominated and elected by an Owners Corporation to jointly oversee its activities generally accordance with the provisions of the NSW Strata Schemes Management Act (1996) and specifically in accordance with the Constitution provided in Schedule 3 of that Act.
The Office of Fair Trading has a less cumbersome definition that you could perhaps pick the eyes out of here.
06/10/2012 at 8:12 am #16723In the ACT: “The executive committee exercises the functions of the owners corporation and is responsible for its day-to-day operation.”
06/10/2012 at 12:52 pm #16725And in NSW the Act says pretty much the same thing but adds that in any conflict between decisions of the EC and those of the Owners Corporation, the Owners Corp prevails.
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
06/10/2012 at 10:00 pm #16728Thanks you all for your input in the definition of an executive committee. Much appreciated.
Great analogy comparing to a board of directors Whale. Those acting on behalf of the shareholders. Making decisions that affect their shareholdings. And if they do not make wise,informed decisions or act promptly to address matters, they affect the value of the shareholdings. And the share holders believing that all is being done to protect their investments.
This sums up my complex at the moment. This definition is important for my correspondence to the EC and in taking the matter of lack of maintenance in this complex to the CTTT. The OC may be responsible for the maintenance of common property, but the EC are the board of directors for the OC, and therefore act on their behalf ensuring all is done to protect the OCs interests and investments. Supposedly.
06/10/2012 at 11:14 pm #16731@JimmyT said:
And in NSW the Act says pretty much the same thing but adds that in any conflict between decisions of the EC and those of the Owners Corporation, the Owners Corp prevails.Same in ACT. The EC acts as directed by resolutions of general meetings or, in the absence of direction, as it sees fit. Since the approved budget is a direction of a general meeting there is considerable restraint on the EC. However, the EC has some scope, indeed responsibility, to take action and spend money when urgent.
08/10/2012 at 9:03 am #16745If my EC acts on behalf of the OC as directed at AGMs EGMs or by matter of maintenance being brought to their attention and they infact do not act on any of the matters brought up by themselves or by others, could I say that I hold them, the members of the EC, accountable for any lack of maintenance that affects by townhouse directly, by appearance or loss of monetary value?
I really need to get their attention brfore taking this matter further. I really need to word this correspondence correctly.
I sent my EC a letter complaining about the actions of a member of the committee continuously breaching by laws at the beginning of the year. I was sent back a letter stating all the work that the had to do and therefore they didn’t have time for my complaint. It seems that they haven’t had time for any of the items on their long list either despite arranging an EGM to agree on quotes for work in May. Getting that reply in writing with the list of maintenance was worth them not addressing the issue I brought to them.
09/10/2012 at 4:07 pm #16765I believe in the old Spanish Inquisition technique of showing the recalcitrant the instruments of torture and, if that doesn’t get them motivated, proceed with the torture as advertised. I’m giving exactly the same advice to the person who reference Catch-22 HERE.
Write to your strata manager and EC secretary and tell them that the Owners Corporation (not the EC or the SM) is neglecting its legally binding duty to maintain and repair common property under the Strata Schemes Management Act and to observe its responsibilities under the Work Health Safety Act, detailing what you believe these lapses to be.
You should then tell them that you will give them 30 days to present a plan of action. Failure to do so will lead you to take action at the CTTT to compel them to fulfill their legal responsibilities.
If they fail to accede to order issued by the CTTT, you will then take action to have the Owners Corporation replaced by the statutory appointment of a strata manager until such times as all necessary work is done.
Tell them that they can do this the easy and cheap way – just make the required decisions – or the hard way, which is to waste time and money fighting it, and end up having to do it anyway (probably even more expensively, given that a Statutory Manager will err on the expensive side of caution when it comes to paying for the work).
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
09/10/2012 at 8:10 pm #16768Thanks i really Appreciate your reply Jimmy. Will use your wording as a guide line for my correspondence. Though I am loathe to detail the maintenance work to be done as I feel I will again be doing the work for these people, just as I did when I was on the EC, I did the work whilst they sat back and said how easy it was. In May A member of the EC sent me an extensive list of work that needs to be done around the complex and now hard it is to get things done (now i am not on the ec to arrange things?) and to my knowledge absolutely nothing has been done. So I iwill ask them for their action plan as you suggest with revised quotes and dates and see what if they actually remember what needs attending to!
10/10/2012 at 9:55 am #16771Ok. This is the last time I post to harp on about the definition of the EC, but where I say “the OC has a legally binding duty to maintain common property” the people I am dealing with on the EC will say that the OC is me so I should organize to get the work done! This is what I am doing with here.
So can I say “the OC has a legally binding duty to maintain common property and the EC as the respentatives of the OC should ensure that such maintenance is carried out”? You see this is the problem here with most residents. They think the OC is the people on the EC. Some on the EC know there is an OC and an EC. So if I say it’s the OC responsibility to maintain, most owners think that is the EC and those on the EC will say that I should do the work as I am on the OC not the EC!
I have been spurred on with this issue of no maintenance after receiving a call from an elderly resident asking me for help for a maintenance issue discovered. It is the same issue that I reported at the beginning of year, that I had the audacity to suggest that all such areas of units be inspected for the same issue and guess what, this problem is popping up all over the complex. So I really need to get something done as I am the only one capable of doing anything and want to get this correspondence organized.
I really need to let the EC know that they cannot put their hand up for the committee, go home and shut the door and ignore issues brought to their attention. I have to let them know that they have a responsibility and if I say it is an OC responsibility then they will honestly not think it is them, because they are the EC! If I cannot say that the EC as respentatives of the OC have a responsibility then m corrospendence is doomed to go nowhere!
10/10/2012 at 10:06 am #16772AnonymousYo Struggs, FlatChatFan, JimmyT and others! I be back from holidays. Wow, you should see the apartment blocks on the Gold Coast!
Struggs, you have the knowledge. You know what tools you have and where they are. What’s stopping yer? Get yerself down to the CTTT.
10/10/2012 at 9:38 pm #16779From all I have read and all the info I have gathered it seems that the though the EC is the representative of the OC, they aren’t accountable for doing not attending to maintenance issues that have been brought to their attention. I now wonder why I bothered all those years in getting repairs attending to.
And Juan u are right, I do have the knowledge. I know the name of a guy who can repair the outside of my unit, and the number of a company who can replace the fittings and fixtures on the outside of my place. Infact they can do the work in a couple of hours whilst I am out inspecting a house to buy. And no one will notice, and what if they do? Have proof they haven’t done anything to anyone else. I’ll get my place done, get rid of it and the rest of them can battle on themselves. I just want to live in a well maintained place.
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