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    Fellow strata community,

    Can anyone confirm if the waterproof membrane is common property on a cantilevered balcony concrete slab?
    In this situation, we are a strata scheme registered prior to 1 July 1974.

    Currently, under negotiations with the SM and EC to rectify a leak, with replacement of the original timber frame windows/door.

    The builders have said a lack of waterproofing to the balcony and lack of step down is a contributing factor to the water ingress.
    Today the SM has said at the AGM that the trafficable membrane is not common property. He stated that it was not present at the time of registration of the plan. It will not be covered by OC when breaking down who is responsible, so I will wear almost the full cost, with only the magnesite removal and its replacement being their responsibility.
    Currently, there are traces of a coating which is uniform across the balcony slabs. The slab itself is common property. Why not the appropriate measures, according to the building code to protect it?

    Hoping someone can assist in some way.
    Many thanks

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    Jimmy-T
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      Off the top of my head, I would say that if the concrete slab is common property, anything attached to it is CP too. I would be taking this one to the CTTT – it would be worth spending $78 to establish whether or not this is right and maybe save yourself a whole heap more.

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      Anonymous

        Hi,

        The issue is the SP registration date being pre 1974′ as the Centre Line rule applied befor 1974′ which placed the ownership of the floor slabs with the Lot Owners, so the slab may not be common property. However you can’t take this statement as advise. Many Strata Schemes have taken steps to change the Centre Line rule by creation of By-laws and other means, so what you need to do as far as determining what is common property is to get some professional advice. A good start is the lands title office which you can ask to make a determination on what they consider common property and also a number of Strata lawyers have expertise in pre 1974 Strata registration issues. (If you email me I can give you a couple of lawyers details that have expertise in this area)

        It would seem that your building has some real building issues, I hope the OC has had a Building Consultant and/or Engineer to have a look at the issues and write a technical advice and a scope of works/specification to detail what remedial repairs are required and had that firm tender the works? I have just posted a full review on selecting contractors and scoping of works under the Forum The Professionals Bad Strata Manager HERE.

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        #16088

        Thanks Jimmy, I have considered Mediation and the possible escalation to the CTTT. Perhaps I’ll proceed after all.

        I have contacted the Lands and Title Office, but only to clarify that the balcony wall is private property, was certain the external concrete slab was CP! The magnesite which sits on the slab inside is CP, so I would logically assume the same would apply outside on the balcony.
        I had not heard of the ‘centre line rule’. With a quick google search it mentions that some boundaries were adjusted but not all. Though I’m confused by this concept.
        Is it common to have a written specification on the original strata plan that would have this info? I’ve only seen a plan view diagram, which doesn’t indicate this.

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