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    Marvin
    Flatchatter

      I’m in NSW.  All the SM Agency Agreements I’ve seen recently are based on the SCA 2012 template.  Has this template been updated to reflect the new legislation?  How can I get a copy of the new template?

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    • #25622
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        That’s probably because Strata Management companies want to rope you in on the old SCA contract.

        The point of the new legislation is to make it easier to change strata managers. They don’t like it because they actually have to be nice to you now.

        #25626
        Jimmy-T
        Keymaster

          No, it’s because any agreements signed right now have to be under existing laws.  There’s no point in getting people to sign an agreement that isn’t legally correct until November 30, when the new contracts will be rolled out.  I’m told most responsible strata managers are renewing contracts under the new limit of three years anyway. If yours isn’t, tell them to take a hike.

          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
          #25635
          Marvin
          Flatchatter
          Chat-starter

            Just after a template at this stage – keen to see what the new contract looks like as part of my planning for when we change our strata manager in the next few months.  I had hoped that people close to the SCA visited these forums and were willing to share a template – but perhaps not.  (Or maybe they’re still working on the new template?)

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              @JimmyT
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              No, it’s because any agreements signed right now have to be under existing laws.  There’s no point in getting people to sign an agreement that isn’t legally correct until November 30, when the new contracts will be rolled out.  I’m told most responsible strata managers are renewing contracts under the new limit of three years anyway. If yours isn’t, tell them to take a hike.  

              Our SM insisted we sign a 3 year contract with automatic renewal recently. So what now, is this contact still valid when the new laws come in?

              #25645
              Jimmy-T
              Keymaster

                The contract is valid to the end of the three years but the automatic renewal is not valid. There are various provisos as to the  renewal options but they are basically for short periods to allow the SM and owners corp time to decide whether or not they want to renew. 

                This is what the new Act says:

                50 Term of appointment of strata managing agents

                (1) The term of appointment (including any additional term under an option to renew) of a strata managing agent for a strata scheme expires (if the term of the appointment does not end earlier or is not ended earlier for any other reason):
                (a) if the strata managing agent is appointed by the owners corporation at the first annual general meeting, at the end of the period of 12 months following that appointment, or
                (b) in any other case, at the end of the period of 3 years following the appointment.
                (2) A person may be reappointed by the owners corporation by resolution at a general meeting as the strata managing agent for a strata scheme at the end of the person’s term of appointment.
                (3) The appointment of a strata managing agent may be terminated in accordance with the instrument of appointment if authorised by a resolution at a general meeting of the owners corporation.
                (4) The term of appointment of a strata managing agent may be extended by the strata committee for successive periods of up to 3 months after it would otherwise expire (but not for any period that would extend beyond the date of the next annual general meeting of the owners corporation) pending a decision as to the reappointment of the strata managing agent.
                (5) However, if a strata committee has extended a term of appointment of a strata managing agent under this section, the strata committee must give the strata managing agent at least 1 month’s notice of a decision not to reappoint the strata managing agent or not to further extend the appointment.
                (6) A strata managing agent must give the owners corporation written notice of the end of a term of appointment:
                (a) at least 3 months before the end of the term of appointment, and
                (b) at least 1 month before the end of each extension of a term permitted by this section.
                (7) An instrument of appointment of a strata managing agent for a period of 3 years (as referred to in subsection (1) (b)) is taken to include an option for the agent to extend the term of the appointment for a maximum period of 3 months after the end of the term of 3 years, if the owners corporation decides not to reappoint the agent and does not extend the term of appointment under subsection (4). The agent must give the owners corporation written notice of the exercise of the option.
                (8) A strata managing agent is not entitled to exercise an option under subsection (7) if the owners corporation gives the agent written notice that the agent will not be reappointed at least 3 months before the end of the term.
                (9) In this section, a reference to the appointment of a strata managing agent includes a reference to the reappointment of a strata managing agent.

                The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                #25647
                Marvin
                Flatchatter
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                  @gusmich said:

                  Our SM insisted we sign a 3 year contract with automatic renewal recently.  

                  Ours tried the same trick.  When challenged as to why a new contract was required, the reply was “it’s required for the new legislation”.  This complete lack of integrity is one of the reasons we will be taking our business elsewhere.

                  #25666

                  Hi. I need clarification.

                  Our SM’s 3 year contract ends this time next year. Our AGM is due January or February next year.

                  With the new laws rolling in, are we bound to our SM til the end of his contract? Or can we vote him out at the next AGM? If the latter, then we should give notice now – is that correct? 

                  Thanks in advance. 

                  #25667
                  Jimmy-T
                  Keymaster

                    Scroll up and have a look at item 6.

                    The contract will continue until it would have run out anyway.  After that you have a number of options to replace, renew or extend (for three months).

                    My advice would be to extend the contract up to your next AGM after the contract runs out, so you can then make a decision to renew the contract or replace the SM without having to hold a special general meeting just for that.

                    The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                    #26246
                    davidp
                    Flatchatter

                      Hello All,

                      What happens if you do not have an executed agreement? The old agreement expired in September and our SM forgot to get a new agreement executed.

                      The EC tried to replace the SM at the last AGM however they arranged proxies and the vote for the replacement SM was defeated.

                      Thank you for your advice.

                      #26260
                      Sir Humphrey
                      Strataguru

                        I think there is usually a provision to keep going month to month at the last year rate till a new agreement is made. 

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