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     Hi

    I am currently the member of an EC in flat of less than 20 units.  I have been a member of the EC for about 2 years.  Our secretary is very conflictive and when I raise concern in regard to due process being followed, he is rude and dismissive. I have experience this also since purchasing my property, when I was not a member of the EC.  

    My question is, what are my legal avenues in relation to taking him and the rest of Executive into account?  Do I have any rights?  Is there anything that I can legally do?  This has now been going on for 5 years and I wish for it to be resolved.

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    Sir Humphrey
    Strataguru

      Less than 20 units. It should not be hard to talk to a fair proportion of owners to find out it there are others who feel likewise. Perhaps many owners thought it was only them? Encourage some like-minded people to go onto the EC with you. The secretary has only one vote on the EC. 

      #23667

      Hi Peter

      Thanks for the reply.  I have spoken to one person who used to be on the EC, but found his attitude so stressful, that she now no longer attends any meetings or wishes to be involved.  Other owners who live at the units also know that he is “like that” but can’t be bothered.  Unfortunately, I am also in a situation where over 50% of the units are tenanted.  Is there any way that I can contact other owners legally?

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      Sir Humphrey
      Strataguru

        I feel your pain! I experienced one guy who was ‘like that’. Fortunately, he was not chair, treasurer or secretary, but he was there to save us from ourselves and explain in no uncertain term how and why we were completely incompetent or worse. He had bought a unit not long before joining the EC and as soon as he joined the EC he proceeded to explain how everything he saw about him was done incorrectly. He gave the impression of gravitas and competence but was not above making incorrect assertions of easily disproven ‘fact’. I think he was not accustomed to being disagreed with. He eventually resigned from the EC without explanation. There were multiple possible triggers. While he was there he was a constant source of stress for other EC members.

        Do you have a managing agent? It could be good to talk to the agent. He/she might be just as frustrated by the secretary and might be pleased to see a change of personnel. However, the agent just has to work with and take direction from whoever is in place on the EC. The agent might agree to mail a letter to all owners. That would get around any reluctance to hand out the mailing list. What about the chair or treasurer? Do they get on with the secretary? Is it a case of nobody else wanting to do the work so the secretary does everything, however he feels it should be done?

        #23675

        It’s the case I think of him being the position of Secretary for I believe over 9(!) years and that he is a law unto himself.  He knows that very few people attend the AGM and every year, he just gets voted in by the same people who turn up. The AGM is even held in his unit!  I believe he is corrupt.  It is, as you said, him feeling like he does “all the work” but it’s only the work that he wants to do.  He bypasses process and believes that people don’t care.  

        We have an new person managing our strata, but it might be as you said, hard to convince her to do anything because she is, in essence, answerable to the EC. I’m incredibly frustrated because I’ve really endured 5 years of bullying and harassment by this person because I tell him he isn’t following the rules.

        #23676
        Jimmy-T
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          Well, Supersleuth, as they say in all the best crime novels, the answer is to follow the money.

          I’m not saying your EC secretary is corrupt (even if you are) but if he isn’t doing the right thing it will almost certainly be costing you money.

          The simplest way is to find a local real estate agent who says if you had done A, B and C rather than X, Y and Z, your properties would be worth more.  Then you get that message out to the other owners.

          The simplest way is to look at your sinking fund and sinking fund plan.  If either is inadequate, it will diminish the future sales value of homes (as well as taking you down the slippery slope to special levies).

          If you want to play hardball, start issuing a monthly newsletter about problems and, most importantly, solutions. Anybody can ask questions but the people with answers are the ones who get elected.

          By the way, be very careful not to make it personal and especially not to make accusations that wouldn’t stand up in a court of law.  However, if you present a picture of a dysfunctional EC that is costing owners money, they will soon draw the right conclusion about who specifically is to blame.

          Your legal avenue would be to seek the statutory appointment of a strata manager but unless there is open warfare, clear signs of corruption and the building is suffering as a result, NCAT probably won’t have a bar of it. 

          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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